There’s a line on your still-unreleased next single, “Team,” that goes, “I’m kind of over being told to throw my hands up in the air… so there.” Is that your take on most modern music?
“Yeah, absolutely. In that song, there are a few lines which are kind of me being the ‘realistic’ pop star: “We live in cities you’ll never see onscreen,” which is like, no one comes to New Zealand, no one knows anything about New Zealand, and here I am, trying to grow up and become a person. I’ve been countering that with going to New York and seeing this place that’s in every movie and every TV show. Part of me wanted to go back to writing for me and for my friends, and write something that I felt related to us a little bit.“